Posted by thurman8er @ 4:43 pm on May 11th 2007

Chapter 13: Prayer Grammar

     This was my favorite chapter of the book.  In the middle of a discussion of prayer that borders on the ethereal, Yancey finally put some rubber to the road.  There are times that I enjoy reading books on Christianity to broaden my mind or make me think of something new…or something old in a new way.  But more often I read them to improve my walk with my Creator.  If I am reading a book about prayer, I would like it to help me communicate better. 

     Like mathematics, prayer has its own vocabulary.  Anybody who has spent anytime in my classroom has heard me talk about sequences and series and integrals and derivatives.  Anybody who spent any time in a Church of Christ in the ’70’s heard people (okay, MEN) say, "Thee," and "Thou," and "the uneven pathway of life."  But the focus of the chapter entitled "Prayer Grammar" is the truth that prayer doesn’t need it’s own grammar, nor its own vocabulary.  As Yancey writes, "I learned…to converse with God as I would converse with my employer, my friend, my wife–in short, to treat God as a Person in every sense of the word."  I was raised to think that God should be addressed like a 15th century Shakespearean character.  As I’ve grown up and grown closer to Him, I’ve learned that He would much prefer that I speak to Him in the same language I use for everyone else. 

     (An aside:  I heard someone say this weekend that you didn’t need to know Greek to get to Heaven, but you wouldn’t know what anyone was saying when you got there.  This is arrogant and snide, but kind of funny.)

     The practicality of the chapter continues as Yancey highlights some prayers from the Bible.  He embellishes The Lord’s Prayer, giving an excellent example of how we can make that prayer our own.  He mentions the psalms and talks of a time when he listed principles of prayer he learned from a sequence of ten of them, an example I would do well to follow.  He includes a section on the many prayers of Paul as well and this was an eye-opener to me.  I always think of Paul as a man of action and argument but seldom as a man of prayer.  Yet Titus is the only Pauline letter not to include a prayer.  Finally, Yancey provides a short list of other Biblical prayers, each of which teaching something unique.  We may use this list as a template for an upcoming pulpit series at College.  If not, it will certainly be used in a class I teach soon.

     There is a section on written and spoken prayers and another on prayer reminders.  Both of these hammer home the idea that prayer is for everybody.  It shouldn’t frighten us away because of its strange grammar or vocabulary.  It is conversation, nothing more, and certainly nothing less.

     "The goal is to spend time with God, not to follow a legalistic procedure….  Each person who prays will need to find a rhythm or method that fits, for each of us has a unique privilege of offering love and attention to the One who made and sustains us."


Posted by Stoogelover @ 11:37 pm on March 12th 2007

Chapter 12: Yearning for Fluency

Those who have assembled as the Long Beach Church of Christ over the years tell stories of deep spiritual faith. There was O. J. Warren (one of the elders and founding members) who prayed and they said you were transported to the very throne of God. There were those who, 53 years ago, were visionary in the building they left for succeeding generations. But always … always … certain names come up as prayer warriors. Evelyn. Doris. Fenton. 

When you asked for prayer, they prayed with you and for you. On the spot. When the church was without children, they met, walked over every square inch of this building and prayed that God would fill it with children. Their prayers were answered, and have continued to be answered.

They were people fluent in prayer, which has not been my personal experience, so for that reason Yancey’s chapter on yearning for fluency in prayer spoke to my heart. For it is out of the same frustrating experience that Yancey writes.

Have you ever studies a foreign language? Growing up in Alabama, we had to take English just in case we ever moved to another state! In college I took intensified German … one year of German in one semester! We studied German about six hours a day and then went to language lab for another hour or two each afternoon. I was saturated in German … but I never learned the language. I could read it. Some of it. I could understand words spoken to me in German, but I could never translate English to German and trying to actually speak the words never became a reality.

Same thing happened years later when I took Greek. I could read and understand some of it. I could translate Greek to English, but I could never translate English to Greek. Why? It was a different language.

Prayer is much the same. It is a different language. We are speaking to God who seldom, if ever, responds. We never actually hear the answer to our prayers. We believe he is listening because he says so, but the process of prayer is often frustrating. Most of Jesus’ prayers were never answered verbally, so who are we to complain?

Yancey makes a few suggestions:

Slow down! Put forth the effort to communicate in a way you’ve never communicated.

Chose a routine. One you can live with. One that will take you away from the constant noise that surrounds you every day. It doesn’t work to try and incorporate someone else’s prayer routine. My attempts to imitate someone else’s prayer routine has only led to frustration and guilt.

Show up! Larry married my friend, Sharon. Larry has run in many of the nation’s premier marathons. L.A. San Diego. Boston. I asked him how he got into running at a late point in his life. He said he started by running to the end of his driveway and back. Then down the street as far as he could. Eventually, he made it to the end of the block. Each day he made it as far as the previous day, if not a little further. Finally, he was runing miles rather than blocks. The point: He showed up every day to run … whether he felt like running or not.

Chapter 12 is a worthwhile read. If for no other reason, Yancey takes part of a page to compare prayer to sex! My guess is you’ve never entertained that idea, so read the chapter!

You may not come away with a fluency in prayer … but you will have some tools that will help if you use them. And you may come away at least comforted by the knowledge that others are not so fluent in prayer either … but we keep praying!

Posted by Brady @ 3:37 pm on February 26th 2007

Ch. 11: Ask, Seek, Knock

Chapter 11 contains the paragraph titles: Battering the gates, Once is not enough, and Winning by losing.

This chapter is about persistence in prayer. Yancey takes the time to examine some of the parables that Jesus told about prayer and pray-ers. He encourages us to keep “pounding on the door”, like the persistent neighbor, for God will answer (even if the fictive neighbor did it grudgingly).

By continuing in prayer to the God who loved us first, we are transformed. We express dependence on him rather than just talking about dependence on him.

About the only good thing I see in addictive sin (brought on by tantalizing temptation) is that it forces us to go to God every single day for strength, confession, direction… Because we are at the end of ourselves. Nouen, who struggled with temptation is quoted by Yancey on page 153:

Sitting in the presence of God for one hour each morning—day after day, week after week, and month after month, in total confusion and with a myriad of distractions—radically changes my life.

So we pray. And although I do not believe that God will give us whatever we ask for as long as we keep bothering him, I do believe that he does give us his Spirit if we continue to pray as we live obediently.

There is no better way to spend the next 20 years than in persistent service, and prayer for more of God’s presence in our lives.
Posted by Brady @ 12:26 pm on January 11th 2007

Ch. 10: Does Prayer Change God


This chapter contains the paragraph titles: The Bible’s View; A Work In Progress; Timeless Complexity; Timeless Love; Making Requests Known.

Welcome back after some wonderful holidays! How was your prayer-life during that time???

In this chapter, Yancey continues the thoughts on prayer and its influence on the Creator. This idea continues to captivate Yancey because of the Scriptures’ description of God as unchangeable, yet also as the one who affected by prayer. As proof of prayer touching God’s heart, the author points to several O.T. events and, enlightenly, to God’s commandment to Jeremiah NOT pray so that God could punish rebellious Israel.

And Calvinism? The standard view of predestination misses, in my view, the essential (that Yancey takes the time to underline): God planned before the beginning of time to form a people through faith in Christ, a people redeemed by the blood of Jesus and working his will under his rule. That was, and is, unchangeable.

In case you missed it, Yancey wrote that Mother Teresa’s nuns pray early each morning “for the energy and the purity to go forth this day and ease the destitute of Calcutta toward a merciful death.” He also quoted Barth (he was Swiss): [God] is not deaf, he listens; more than that, he acts. He does not act in the same way whether we pray or not. Prayer exerts an influence upon God’s action, even upon his existence… The fact that God yields to man’s petitions, changing his intentions in response to man’s prayer, is not a sign of weakness. He himself, in the glory of his majesty and power, has so willed it.

God listens to people because he loves them. The “relationship ups the urgency of any information…” And I imagine he listens even more carefully to the one striving to love and obey him, to those who truly count on him.

What do you think?

Posted by Brady @ 5:06 pm on December 21st 2006

Ch. 09: Does it make a difference?

 

This chapter contains the paragraph titles: Our Strongest Weapon; Scenes of Uprising; Disarming Prayer; Angle of Repose; A Spur to Action; Disciplines for Emergency Workers.

Yancey continues his thoughts on prayer as being a partnership with God. He spends more pages showing the vital role believers and their prayers have played in political and social reform throughout the world.

This chapter hit home, as I can clearly remember arguing with my father-in-law (FIL) about the existence of Ukraine as a nation. It was probably 1987 and Ukraine was under Soviet rule. My position was that Ukraine, in all but name, was NOT a nation. Rather, it was a Soviet state, a puppet of communism. FIL argued that Ukraine most certainly WAS a country with a rich history and people. My comment was that there was no future for that country. And that there never would be. It was destined to remain communist.

How little faith I had. FIL prayed for Ukraine and Ukrainians every day. I don’t know if he prayed specifically for its freedom, but only a few months after the fall of the Berlin Wall (only a couple of years after our debate), he found himself in downtown Kiev.

Through prayer we confront the spiritual forces of evil. We call upon God. He in turn works his will in our world, most often using those who pray to bring about change. This reality brought men like Bonhoeffer to state: “A day without morning and evening prayers and personal intercessions is actually a day without meaning or importance.”

Today, I was reminded of the need for prayer in ministry when I was preparing this post. G, whom we’ve known for years, dropped by with a bottle of wine and home-made pasta (all to consume later). As Wife and G and I spoke, G started crying: “Why don’t I pray? I sit there at the morning table reading the paper… I know I should pray, but I don’t. I lay there in bed… I know I should pray. But I search for just a few more winks.”

And I sat and listened to her confession as someone who hadn’t yet taken the time to pray. So we prayed. We prayed together.

Yancey reminds us that three of the most powerful words in the English language consist in the simple demand: Let Us Pray.


Posted by Brady @ 2:11 pm on December 7th 2006

Ch. 08: Partnership


This chapter contains the paragraph titles: A change underway, God-Incidents, “Stages” of prayer, Kingdom partners and Double agency.

Yancey sums up this chapter in his first paragraph: “History is the story of God giving away power” and, “Apparently God committed to work with human partners no matter how inept” (p. 101).

But something has changed since those bible days, says Yancey. And it’s something we readers grudgingly suspect. (Revelation interpreted history for us…) What is God doing now, and what am I doing in this thing called prayer?

When we pray, we see God at work. Two quotes: “Coincidence is God’s way of protecting his anonymity” (AA); and, “When I pray, coincidences happen. When I don’t, they don’t” (Archbishop W. Temple).

(That preceding paragraph bugs me. How do we know that God brought that about, and that he brought it about because of prayer? The skeptic can say it’s all a bunch of self-talk… That prayer just makes you more aware. There’s no god at work. It’s just the prayer process opening your eyes to what’s going on around you. –– But the faithful pray-er believes God is at work. He can show you the prayer journal filled with responses. He may even go a little bit overboard and make you (want to) roll your eyes. But he stands firm in his conviction.)

When we pray, God puts us to work as his partners. He evangelizes the world through people. He brings justice to the cities through people. In fact, the more believers ask, spend time with God, and search for his will in prayer, the harder it is to tell what God has done and what his people have done. As Yancey writes, there’s a “subtle interplay of human and divine that accomplish God’s work on the earth…”

I leave you with part of the wonderful Franciscan blessing on page 105:

[…] May God bless you with anger
At injustice, oppression, and exploitation of people,
So that you may work for justice, freedom and peace.

[…] And may God bless you with enough foolishness
To believe that you can make a difference in the world,
So that you can do what others claim cannot be done
To bring justice and kindness to all our children and the poor.


Posted by Brad @ 7:56 pm on November 20th 2006

Chapter 7 - Wrestling Match

This chapter has caused me a great deal of difficulty.  One specific challenge I have in my prayer life is that I don’t like to plead with God for his blessings or for certain things to go my way.  Somewhere deep inside I have this feeling that God knows what I need and will give me the things that I need to make it through this life.  This chapter presents the side of prayer that I have never understood.

Despite my lack of understanding, there are plenty of Biblical examples of those who have treated their discussions with God as a time to repeatedly appeal their cases to God.  It almost seems at times to be a combination of manipulation, persistence, and negotiation.  These things I understand, but in my prayer life with God I do not.  

The specific examples that Yancey uses are of Abraham, who bargained with God in an attempt to save Sodom; Moses, who argued with God regarding his calling to lead Israel; and Jacob, who wrestled with God.  I admire the men he’s referred to, and I can understand the approaches they made, but somehow I still see the actions as a manifestation of humanity in a divine relationship.  Perhaps this, then, is the very point of the issue.  In the section "A Strange Intimacy", Yancey poses the question "Or is it possible that God…relies on our outbursts as a window into the world, or as an alarm that might trigger intervention?"  He cites the cry of the Israelites as the motivation for calling Moses as an example of such a thing.  The challenge that I have with this is that it forces me to accept the fact that God is somehow not all knowing and all powerful.  Does God need an alarm to know when His children need help?  I don’t think my mind can grasp an all-mighty, all-powerful God who isn’t actually all-mighty and all-powerful.

I believe that this behavior, this need to engage God in an argumentative, pleading, wrestling kind of way really just demonstrates our need for Him to be a part of our lives.  It is the cry of a desperate people longing with the spiritual, mental, emotional, and physical to hear and be heard by God.  Our inability to overcome the communication barriers that are in place because of the separation of the physical and spiritual worlds cause us to act out. 

I remember when my children were two or three years old and they wanted something but I couldn’t understand what it was and they didn’t have the words yet to communicate their needs.  I’d offer food, then water, then toys, then hugs.  Eventually we’d end up with an extremely frustrated two-year-old on the edge complete meltdown.  It wasn’t that I wasn’t listening or trying to meet the needs, it was the perception on the part of the child that I didn’t understand or that I wasn’t listening.  I can see a lot of that in the very few times I have felt like engaging God in a head-to-head prayerfest:  my son is crippled by an infection, my father dies from cancer, I’m separated from my family because of military deployment.  It was my frustration that things weren’t going my way that made me feel I wasn’t being heard by God and made me think I could just speak louder or more often and He would finally hear.

If that is the case, if that is what is going on, then I think Yancey’s comment on page 98 is perfect.  "[Sometimes] not communicating is worse than fighting.  In a wrestling match, at least both parties stay engaged."  This is the redeeming quality and what makes Job’s pleadings acceptable to God.  We need Him so badly, so instead of not talking to Him any longer we engage all the more.  When I understand this as frailty on my part and a deep cry of dependence on God, I can begin to understand the wrestling match.  Just a little…

Posted by Brady @ 9:52 am on November 13th 2006

CH. 06: Why Pray?

Chapter 6 contains the paragraph titles: What is the point?; Jesus at prayer; Does prayer matter?; Prayer limits; Unprayed Prayers; and Parental pain.

Yancey tries to, or at least begins to try to, answer some of the questions we ask about prayer and God’s answers, or lack thereof. He polarizes prayer into either Trouble or Trivia… Praying for the end of suffering or praying for the proverbial parking place… Even mentioning the extreme conclusion of some: “God cannot influence the course of worldly events.”

The author shows us that Jesus prayed. He prayed in trouble. He prayed before life’s “biggies”. Prayer must matter, writes Yancey, because Jesus clung to it.

Yet Jesus had to deal with the Father who did not relieve the pain, who did not give the easy solutions. Yancey brings up the element of human freedom, reminding us that there is a “freedom-crushing style of evil” yet a “freedom-respecting style of good”. Example: Demonic possession is much more “dictatorial” than the Kingdom message of Christ. One originates in evil. The other in Love. Yancey tries to show how all of this works out in Jesus’ prayer concerning the “sifting” of Peter. He prays for Peter. He does not take him out of temptation’s way. I found these paragraphs quite good.

Two quotes:

“For most of us prayer serves as a resource to help in a time of testing or conflict. For Jesus, it was the battle itself” (86).

“Somehow redeemed suffering is better than no suffering at all…” (88).

Since his Ascension, Jesus reigns at the right hand of God and intercedes for us. Why pray? Because he did. And he still does.

Does prayer make a concrete difference in your life and in the events of your life?
Posted by Brady @ 9:54 am on November 3rd 2006

Ch. 05: Prayer as dialogue

This chapter contains the paragraph titles: Why Jesus prayed; Friendship; Running Dialogue; Passionate Alliance. Yancey points out that Jesus relied on prayer to communicate with God, just as we do. In his humanity, he was “limited” to prayer. Leads me to think that prayer is not as limited as I sometimes imagine, for Jesus always hungered for it.

The analogy of prayer to God as a "conversation with an intimate friend" is helpful. I expressed in an earlier comment that it was a fine illustration, but for me, an illustration. I’m not sure that the "answering partner who takes up the other side of the dialogue" is not just a refined, Spirit-informed conscience. One of my mentors called prayer “the place we pick up on God’s cues.” That lathers, though how it works, I do not know. My problem with the word “dialogue” is an existential one, not a faith one. Eugene Peterson sees prayer as dialogue, but in the sense that God has spoken first. We are answering him in prayer, responding to his word, his action (and even inaction) in our lives.

I pray because I depend on God. I need him. I desire to know him. My lack of faith and failures actually drive me to prayer. Where else can I go? I need him badly. I desire his will in my life.

Yancey balances friendship with God by introducing the word “alliance” into the discussion on prayer. This word embodies the relationship that the Almighty has with his people. In prayer, we never forget the alliance is unequal. Yet we never forget that the relationship exists because our loving God desires it mightily.

So, my questions for you are quite personal, and maybe too intimate: Do you dialogue with God in practice? I mean, does he talk back to you? How do you pick up on his cues? How do you know it’s not just “self talk”?

And is prayer, this week’s prayer, this morning’s prayer, bringing you to see things from God’s perspective, from the view “high up” the mountain? Is confession, praise and intercession revealing who you are to God, and who he is to you?

Posted by Stoogelover @ 8:29 pm on October 27th 2006

Chapters 3 and 4 … or something close

I wrote in an earlier blog of my struggles with prayer, with praying, and with the whole theology of prayer. Is there some fancy $3 word for the theology of prayer? I never studied to be a preacher, so I was never privy to the complete list of fancy $3 theological words. What few I do know, I use sparingly, and only to impress my audience!

Be that as it may, I was very interested to learn Yancey was writing a book about prayer and I was more than eager to get my copy. To be honest, my first attempt through it was not so encouraging. But now that I’m going back through it, I’m finding much that I missed. Perhaps I was so eager to have my prayer life “fixed” that I missed the meat of the book.

I appreciate Brady asking me to contribute to this “discussion” though from the evidence of responses, it hasn’t been much of a discussion yet, in spite of Steve’s excellent job of getting us started.

Chapters 3 and 4, Yancey addresses the subjects: Just As We Are and The God Who Is. Both have been problematic to this preacher who was “called” through the back door and has yet to be exposed and expelled from the pulpit. Chapter 3 begins:

“Sometimes I wonder if the words I use are the least important part of prayer. Who am I? And who is God? If I can answer those two questions, the words I pray recede. Prayer invites me to lower defenses and present the self that no other person fully knows to a God who already knows.”

As for prayer, my early education consisted of what I heard at church. Not a very good source for learning to pray as I look back on it all. We had a weekly game we played (my best friend, the preacher’s son, and I) where we would see who was doing the opening prayer and then try to recite the prayer before it was actually prayed. We were amazingly accurate. My father even talked differently when he led prayer. He said certain words more “prayerfully” than in regular conversation, so we even threw in the accent for extra credit. Prayer was basically an exercise in the repetition of popular phrases. Same prayer from the same person each time. And always in the King James vernacular. God, apparently, did not recognize (or appreciate) the street language of our day.

Yancey offers several natural states from which we come to God: Guilty (the most obvious one). Helpless (not very politically correct these days). Humble (rarely did I see that growing up). Doubting (my favorite natural state). Honest (a fearful state if that meant truly confessing the junk in my life). And finally,  Exposed ("Yikes!").

Mine changed over the years. A key development in my prayer life came a year following the death of my uncle and best friend in life, Tom. He died at an early age from cancer that pretty much ravaged his body. Unknown to me at the time, I was filled with anger … no, make that rage … at God for Tom’s death. We had so much fun together. He was my mentor. My best friend. My antagonist. My buddy. We had plans for the future.

About a year after I preached his funeral, we were playing softball on the church team in Florida. I was pulled from the game (and I was playing well, for a change) by a man who had come to replace Tom in my life. "Big Cecil" Walker (my friend, Cecil’s, dad). I walked off the field, went straight to the car and told my wife on my way out that I was going home. It was a cold, silent drive. She finally broke the silence by asking what had happened about this time of year in my life. We finally figured it out: it was the anniversary of Tom’s death and all my anger with God was coming to the surface.

A day or two later, at home alone, I poured out my heart and anger and frustration toward God. For at least an hour or more, I let it flow … and I learned something I’d never known. God is big enough to take all of that from me! It didn’t adversely affect our relationship at all. For that matter, it greatly improved our relationship, at least from my perspective. I really could come to God just as I am and he would accept me. Listen to me. Love me. And, in time, comfort me. I’ve come many times since just as I am, which almost always leads to the natural states of guilty, helpless, doubting and exposed. Seems I’m not the best example of a prayer warrior, so I struggle along.

The good news is chapter 4, the God who is. We are conditioned by numerous factors to view God from a certain perspective. For the most part, growing up in a southern church of Christ, the perspective modeled to me was less than attractive to me. Maybe it worked for them, but it didn’t work for me. As I grew on my own (having finally learned how to study the bible for myself at Harding Graduate School of Religion … never graduated, so I never got the full list of $3 fancy words), I created a lot of stress for my parents and friends. I sounded less and less like a true church of Christ-er and more like those denominationalists out there who believed in grace instead of works.

But the discovery of the God who is was and is a wonderful discovery. And the more I allowed God to introduce himself to me through his word (Scripture) and his Word (Jesus) and his Spirit, the more I came to treasure my Father. That, in itself, is an on-going discovery as I never had a very healthy relationship with my earthly father. But I’m learning. The Father, Son, and Spirit became real to me. Personalities with whom I could have a relationship beyond just reading about them.

I’m learning as a father just how difficult is that role. I’m learning my own father was not such a bad guy. He just had a far different model of what a father should be than what I needed. We grew up in the turbulent 60’s and the response, “Because I said so” just didn’t cut it with us and I rebelled. But in my rebellion, I finally saw my father for who he was and that he loved us very much … just showed it in a way that didn’t connect with a rebellious heart. So he did all he knew to do. He let me have my space. And I took it. And I’ve regretted it to some extent, but it taught me to be a better father to my own children.

I’m learning God is not a Super-Cop to be feared (as Yancey puts it), but a heavenly Father who is who he is, but is approachable. Who invites us to call him “Abba.” Who loves me more than I can ever love my children. Who gives me my space, but mysteriously continues to draw me to him. One comment in Yancey’s book that really struck a chord in my heart: In a world that glorifies success, an admission of weakness disarms pride at the same time that it prepares us to receive grace…. In the presence of the Great Physician, my most appropriate contribution may be my wounds (p.36).

I’ve taken enough of your time. Read the book and let us know … what has been your experience? Where did you learn prayer? What is your most natural state of coming to God? What was your earliest impression of God and how did that affect your prayer later in life? Just some starter questions to get us talking.

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